Support for World Para Swimming Points System

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jakub
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Support for World Para Swimming Points System

Post by jakub » 14 Mar 2017, 10:53

World Para Swimming (formerly known as IPC Swimming), the governing body for para swimming, have introduced a new point system on February 28, 2017. The method used to calculate the points for a specific time is the Gompertz function. Currently, this point system is used in the new series of para swimming competition: 2017 World Para-Swimming World Series (https://www.paralympic.org/swimming/world-series-2017). Organizers of other national and international competitions would soon like to use the same point system as well.

I'm afraid that currently, the Splash software does not support the calculation of points using the Gompertz function. Please let me know if I'm wrong and explain how to use this points if currently supported. Otherwise, could you add support for World Para Swimming points (possibly including the base times/parameters as well)?

Regards,
Jakub

Description and Basic Procedure: https://www.paralympic.org/sites/defaul ... System.pdf

Parameters (pdf): https://www.paralympic.org/sites/defaul ... Scores.pdf

Parameters (excel): https://www.paralympic.org/sites/defaul ... _2_18.xlsx

chk
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Re: Support for World Para Swimming Points System

Post by chk » 16 Mar 2017, 11:21

I will look into that within the next weeks.

cu ckh

jakub
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Re: Support for World Para Swimming Points System

Post by jakub » 27 Apr 2017, 14:13

Any news on this topic?

We will have National Championships in Poland in mid June (data handling using Splash Meet Manager) and would like to use the new point system.

chk
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Re: Support for World Para Swimming Points System

Post by chk » 29 Apr 2017, 10:46

It's available in the latest preview build.

cu ckh

gorrit.vercauteren
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Re: Support for World Para Swimming Points System

Post by gorrit.vercauteren » 13 Jun 2017, 14:16

Dear

I found this feature available in the latest version.

Is it possible to manual change the list?
The default list doesn't support S14, S15 and S19 (that are used in some countries).

It would be nice if there was a feature as with the IPC Points table to manually add them under the "Points" directory in the installation folder.
Is this possible? And if so, how should this file look like?

Thanks for your reply.

Kind regards,

Gorrit

chk
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Re: Support for World Para Swimming Points System

Post by chk » 14 Jun 2017, 16:05

Basically this is possible, however be carefull with the parameters for the Gompertz formula so you don't get overflow errors in calculation.

The format of the file is a bit different. Here are the first rows of the internal file for the World Para 2017
Formula=GOMPERTZ
Id=123
Name=World Para Points Table
Options=HANDICAP
ShortNameVersion=WPP 2017
Version=2017

<BASETIMES>
COURSE;GENDER;RELAYCOUNT;DISTANCE;STROKE;HANDICAP;GOMPERTZA;GOMPERTZB;GOMPERTZC
LCM;M;1;50;FREE;S1;1200;6.137220;505.689
LCM;M;1;50;FREE;S2;1200;6.137220;456.901
LCM;M;1;50;FREE;S3;1200;6.137220;339.935
LCM;M;1;50;FREE;S4;1200;6.137220;280.328
LCM;M;1;50;FREE;S5;1200;6.137220;253.122
LCM;M;1;50;FREE;S6;1200;6.137220;229.867
LCM;M;1;50;FREE;S7;1200;6.137220;219.350
LCM;M;1;50;FREE;S8;1200;6.137220;207.023
LCM;M;1;50;FREE;S9;1200;6.137220;200.917
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jakub
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Re: Support for World Para Swimming Points System

Post by jakub » 18 Jun 2018, 18:49

Hi again!

We had a para swimming national champs in Poland last weekend and got one result better than the current World Record in Men's 150 m Individual Medley S1 - swimmer's time: 5:48.13. However, the Meet Manager didn't give any WPP points for that results and classified swimmer at the last position in the event. Results in PDF here: http://live.megatiming.pl/stepniak/2018 ... ist_24.pdf We have used WPP 2017, since we couldn't find the updated version of points in the Meet Manager (new parameters available here: https://www.paralympic.org/sites/defaul ... lator.xlsx)

Best regards,
Jakub

EDIT: I found the reason - in the 2017 version parameters for Men's 150 m Individual Medley S1 were not provided, that has changed this year. The 2017 parameters are here available here: https://www.paralympic.org/sites/defaul ... Scores.pdf

Moreover, WPS also introduced the Youth Point Scores. Described at the end of 2018 version document: https://m.paralympic.org/sites/default/ ... Scores.pdf

chk
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Re: Support for World Para Swimming Points System

Post by chk » 21 Jun 2018, 10:43

Hi,
World Para 2018 points are available in the latest version of MM, including 150 Medley.

But you have to download the preview build manually here:
https://wiki.swimrankings.net/index.php ... #Downloads

New public (automatic) build will be end of this month.

For the youth points: I couldn't find the parameters as Excel file. Also in the PDF these points are only mentioned, but the parameters are missing.

cu ckh

chk
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Re: Support for World Para Swimming Points System

Post by chk » 21 Jun 2018, 11:13

Youth Points: I read more carefully, will be in next update of Meet Manager.

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